1991 Mercedes-Benz 560SEL 6.0 AMG

25 CommentsPosted as: ClearPOST COMMENT December 10th, 2022 at 7:33pm ESTKRH1 (4) 0When these cars ended up in Japan as stock 56SEL's there were a lot that were modified in later yrs and turned into replica AMG's and to confirm it was an original you need paperwork to verify. Japan workshops were very resourceful in creating replica's. Odd it has a stock soundsystem. Bumpers look like f/glass replica's and not painted orignal chrome mouldings. Exhaust is not AMG. Engine swap you have no way of telling the M119 is bored out to 100mm cylinders, forged pistons & M117 crank swap unless paperwork or engine stripped down to verify otherwise it could by just a 5ltre M119-960 swap with M117 timing cover & sump. Notice cracks in most of the AMG wheel centres in the lug holes to centre bore walls. Very strange to repaint highly desirable 119 blue/black to silver? notice paint overspray on the door handles rubber indicating handles were not removed for painting. i wonder what diff it is running? if it is a 2.47 you know it not AMG. The Euro 300hp were running 2.65 & AMG 2.82 or 3.06 and Gleason-torson centres and also 1st gear start My guess is it a replica AMG unless the seller has AMG documentation. In saying that it is still a nice car and super desrirable and rare even if it is a replica it just means it won't attract cashed up collectors chasing verified original pre-merger AMG cars prepared to pay. Looks like bidding got passed in & did not meet reserve so interesting to find out the final outcome October 15th, 2022 at 5:06am ESTAlphadelta (4) 0What size wheels are those 17” what are the offsets?September 22nd, 2022 at 8:05am ESTYupididit (1) 0I wonder what the reserve was set toSeptember 21st, 2022 at 8:43pm ESTTheAMGKit (37) 0Surprised it didn't sell for around this price September 21st, 2022 at 6:33pm EST$140,000 bid placed by @HowardMSeptember 21st, 2022 at 6:31pm EST$137,500 bid placed by @PT44September 21st, 2022 at 6:30pm EST$137,000 bid placed by @HowardMSeptember 21st, 2022 at 6:28pm EST$136,000 bid placed by @PT44September 21st, 2022 at 6:26pm EST$135,000 bid placed by @HowardMSeptember 21st, 2022 at 6:24pm EST$133,000 bid placed by @PT44September 21st, 2022 at 6:22pm EST$132,000 bid placed by @HowardMSeptember 21st, 2022 at 6:21pm ESTVlad600sel (119) 0Great looking car GLWSSeptember 21st, 2022 at 6:20pm EST$131,000 bid placed by @PT44September 17th, 2022 at 11:20pm EST$130,000 bid placed by @abnormalSeptember 17th, 2022 at 1:59pm ESTthembmarket (691) 1A video walk around has been added to the listing above. September 15th, 2022 at 11:15am ESTTom69 (1) 0Rear muffler not original, is has normally a Spot welded AMG Identification number AMG-Sign anf is much larger in size especially in heightSeptember 14th, 2022 at 4:14pm ESTRickAMGfreak (4) 1@Ali63 Looks like AMG suspension and AMG/Ate 4 pistons brakes. Center muffler not AMG - stock MB (why??). Rear muffler looks like not AMG Sebring (can see welds?). If its 1991 JP AMG it should have dedicated AMG JP user manual.September 14th, 2022 at 4:08pm ESTRickAMGfreak (4) 3@Porschephile The term "M117/9" is absolutely correct, used officially by AMG - you can find it on a label placed on right engine head. Indeed, this is technically M119 engine with some parts from M117, like @AMG5pt4 wrote. September 13th, 2022 at 6:44pm ESTbenzgarden (44) 2These were al a carte builds however it appears the later pre-merger cars especially the Japan builds were mostly exterior body kits/wheels and the motor. I’ve noticed the early 80’s cars out of Affalterbach had much more custom interiors and sound systems. I’m worried as the market for these appreciates we will start to see some non authentic pre-merger cars. Those who have documented cars will be financially awarded. September 13th, 2022 at 9:38am ESTTom69 (1) 1if you want the price of an original AMG 560 SEL 6.0 which we would pay for, we need a proof for that. Not it could be maybe backdated M 119, repainted in other color, If AMG made this OK, but we need facts for that - sorry September 13th, 2022 at 12:08am ESTAli63 (12) 0Interesting to see a stock sound system. Would have thought Nakamichi or Technics headunits at the very least. Besides the engine what other AMG treatment on the driveline? First gear start, gleason torsen diff? Can't tell from the pics it appears to have AMG shocks and springs and the big brake kit on the front?September 12th, 2022 at 10:53am ESTmbzcollector (26) 2@porschephile I guess either way would be correct. This is a 1991 and by then AMG had realized that it took a lot less work to make this engine a 6 litter as it was already a DOHC and it is far more reliable. I guess the m117 is a more iconic engine to own but this is more useful. September 12th, 2022 at 8:24am ESTPorschephile (4) 0@StarPeopleWorld I have not heard of the term "M117/9". What this seems to be is an M119 that has been backdated with some M117 parts to work in the older W126 chassis. If you want to combine engine codes, wouldn't it be more accurate to use M119/7 since the engine actually started life as a factory Mercedes M119 which was later modified with M117 and AMG parts? When folks think of an AMG 32v DOHC 6.0 in a w126, they whink of an M117 with the custom AMG 32v heads. This car has M119 Mercedes heads, not the custom heads that AMG made for the M117. This is the important clarification. Cool car, and best of luck with the sale!September 11th, 2022 at 5:13pm ESTAMG5pt4 (152) 2This engine started as an early M119 engine (I believe M119.960) from a 90-91 R129 500SL. The engine was modified by taking the front timing cover from an M117 560 engine and installing it along with a distributor to the M119 engine to use the EZL and ECU from the 560SEL. It's more complicated than that (lower oil pans had to be swapped), but that is the basics. Maybe someone with more knowledge of the conversion can chime in to correct any errors I may have stated. The early M119 engine used the same KE-Jet fuel system as t